I think we get a little carried away with ourselves with sports thinking we're more important than everything else.

But for me, I thought you made a record, you got on a bus, went out and played your shows and made a lot of money. That was the way it was supposed to go down. But there's a lot more to it than that. There are a lot of early mornings, late nights, a lot of traveling, a lot of being away from home, being away from your family.

The first rule of sustainability is to align with natural forces, or at least not try to defy them.

It was the height of the Depression, and suddenly I am earning pots of money.